Electrifying Hepatitis Virus

John McHutchison, M.D., Associate Director of the Duke Clinical Research Institute, is quoted as saying: "Currently available therapies for patients infected with Hepatitis C Virus can be difficult to tolerate and less than half the patients who start the yearlong treatment regimen achieve the ultimate goal of having an undetectable level of virus in their bodies." 


Success stories from http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ in the “files” section:

Here is the result from a person over 15 weeks using Godzilla (a crude version of our DC Electrifier).  He had been using a Beck 4 Hz blood electrifier on his wrists for a year with no success

In his 5th 3 week test period he reports a 300% reduction over the 4th period!

Viral Count for each 3 week period:
1- 2,200,000
2- 1,600,000
3- 1,500,000
4- 45,000
5- 14,400 (99.3% reduction in 15 weeks)
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BG, I can honestly say, without exaggeration, that I've had no
noticeable symptoms of HCV for many months now. I can say this for sure,
because mine were very noticeable.
I have not been motivated to get a blood test as of yet;
I am planning to in a few months; right now, I am planning to begin a
more intense treatment with several placements of electrodes and an
increase in mineral consumption as outlined by the recent new member,
along with Colloidal Silver.
I have been wearing my unit for several (4-5) hours daily on average.
Placing the electrodes over the liver, front and back, seems to increase
stamina as well. 


5-10-2004
Hi to all,
I received my third blood test report today, and I see a steady
improvement, since beginning with the electrodes over the liver 
and opposite on the lower back. Now that we have made the recent 
change to large pads, I expect even more improvement.

My test in December showed the sgot at 59. Normal is 40 or less.
Today, the sgot is 55.
I've been fairly consistent; most days average 2-3 hrs. 
Rarely miss a day. So, I'm encouraged by these numbers. There is 
some room for improvement on the timing, and how and 
what of electrode placement, but I'm happy that my symptoms are 
next to zero, and holding.

These numbers indicate mild inflammation; the usual for most 
chronics -I think, based on my own experience- is around 100 
to 120 on average, with spikes and an occasional valley.
I plan to test once a month from here on...

06-14-2004
I won't use the word cure, but I have consistent relief, 
and test numbers are normalizing, as well as symptoms. 
More time is needed to perfect the application, but in 
the meantime, it is working extremely well.

06-16-2004
There are so many symptoms that I might miss a few, but the red, itchy 
eyes are often most noticeable, at least in the beginning. Next, 
and in chronological order; - to my best recollection...-
Stool changes- constipation, complexion off color- dark 
urine- sneezing bouts-fatigue- depression- feeling of 
unwellness- and later... stools light colored and sinking, liver 
swelling, unable to sleep on right side( stomach and lung
push against liver)- little appetite- dark inner areas of eyes, 
and yellow inner eye ball- brain fog, insomnia, low energy- 
low interest in activities. When I sign off I'll probably 
remember some more, and others may add to the list, but 
you get the picture. I began to apply the electrodes to the 
wrist about March '03 and I almost gave up several times- 
was noticing only slight improvement, and not sure it was 
the device or not- stayed with it for months until BG 
suggested to try over the liver. Began to do so in July, 
and noticed an increase in stamina very soon. Continued for 
several hrs a day and symptoms began to diminish. Again, BG 
suggested that pads might work even better, and so they do...
noticed even more improvement since March '04.
I attach the wires to a stainless steel 5" diameter plate- 
bottom of a dog bowl- sandwiched between a piece of vinyl table 
placemat, and then 3 layers of towel, and then one layer of 
linen, sewed at the edges. Make several cuts into the steel to 
give it flexibility. Soak in tap water. I choose tap water to 
keep things simple. I bought a real nice magnetic belt 
from Rite Aid pharmacy for $30. Wear the pads over the 
liver ad opposite on the back for several hours. I wear a 
fanny pack that holds the device. Digestion is now consistent 
and improving still. Having 2-3 bowel movements a day is 
surely a good sign- to me...(Yeah, I'm a cheap date) Appearance 
is improved, depression basically non existent, eyes feel cool 
and normal, urine is clear, basically all the above are 
gone or diminished. I will be blood testing again around 
July 1st for function.....

===note from group moderator: This is based on Univ of Washington information on Hep-C pathology. It infects the liver cells themselves, so using the wrist-bloodstream approach only affects viruses circulating in the bloodstream. If anything, the liver itself has to receive a rather long exposure to a tolerable DC current to reduce the virus it contains. Large pads of metal and cloth placed in front and behind the liver assure it all gets exposed. 


I reported sometime in May and promised to do so again in June, but it
seemed (and now I know why) that progress was halted and symptoms flared a bit. So
I waited until now to blood test and the test showed a spike in liver
inflammation. - @ 110 sgot- (my typical average.) (0-40 is normal.)
Anyway, I'll try to briefly report most of the experience from the beginning.
Dec 2003 sgot down to 59 after a few months of zilling- mostly on the wrist,
but transitioning to pads of the liver, and typically 1ma @ 4-6 hours daily.
Jan. 2004- after 2 weeks without zilling, sgot 76, and the symptoms of burning,
irritated eyes began (typical for me)
Began to zill again, symptoms disappeared .
May 2004 sgot 53.
Here is probably where I went wrong. I began to turn up the current to 2-3 ma
daily for 3-6 hours. I had good results at first, but slowly had subtle signs of inflammation.
Waited until Sep 2004 and now know.
Went to Denver for 3 days without my ziller, and almost immediately the burning
eyes began. Came home and began zilling- symptoms disappeared again.
So it appears to me that low current is the best. Perhaps some other
influence caused the problem, but I suspect the higher current.

On the one hand, I am convinced that the godzilla has a positive
(improvement) effect on my health, with hugely diminished symptoms of
Hepatitis C.
In fact, if I stop treatment for more than 3-4 days, I begin to notice
them return.
On the other hand, my test showed a jump in liver inflammation in Oct-
up to 326 stpt - (0-40 is normal *)
* I noticed no symptoms at this time; even bragging to the doctor that
I expected a good report.
I have since began to mega dose anti-oxidants, which is recommended to
squelch the cascading free radicals, with Vitamin C as the cornerstone.
Another guess is that someone in my condition (30 years) will just need
more than one therapy to deal with the problem. So, right now, all I
can do is speculate.

I've been placing the 5" diameter pads over the liver, front and back,
for 1-3 hours a day, but mostly in the morning, and not at night, as you
suggested; -(morning and then night are probably needed to interrupt all
viral replication. )
I will try to create a stricter morning and night regimen and also
multiple sites, and see what happens.


2/15/05
First thing I want to say, is that I have witnessed first hand the
effectiveness of this technology and I believe it will work to eliminate virus infections.
However, there are still some questions about dosage, timing, and
electroporation that have to be ironed out, I think.
I got a steady decrease in the beginning, on the liver cell damage counts.
What I considered excellent results, considering that I did almost no other
therapy.
Then a steady climb, meaning an increase in damage.


DOSAGE INFORMATION:
Bob, I rarely turned up the current beyond 1mA, because I wanted to
avoid skin irritation, but I did wear the pads for hours at a time;
sometimes 2-3, then 5-6, and toward the end back to 1 hour morning, and
1 hour evenings. I never "felt" anything negative from this. - Just the rise
in numbers.
It could be that my "more time is better" approach is wrong. - and less is
better. I always turned the current up to, and tried to maintain 1mA.


> By coincidence, I am rebounding while zapping as well.
> I am getting complete relief from symptoms at this time.
> My appearance is improved as well as my energy levels. I do believe
> it's working.
> I began accelerated improvement after switching the electrodes to the
> liver only.
> I have been wearing it for many hours at work. 
> Meanwhile, I'm also doing castor oil packs- very healing-
> Essiac tea- very good for detoxing from the liver on down. 
> Lots of milk thistle and some mushrooms
> Trying to stay alkalinized -is that a word? - by juicing etc.
> I also take a teaspoon of the http://traceminerals.com because I am
> persuaded that the minerals may conduct electricity as well. as
> mentioned earlier.


I haven't give up on treatment, but I've quit getting fired up over a
cure after 8 or so years of intense effort. No one I know personally,
has tried so hard, and spent so much money. However, I am planning to
just cope with what I have, and this device and the others modalities
I've adopted give me a sense of well being, and that's what I've decided
is good enough until the mad scientists invent something better than the
current drug treatment.


> Just to add some more confusion, I do have a genetic liver disease, called Wilson's Disease, which is a disease in which copper gets
> accumulated in my body, reaching toxic levels. It does damage the liver, but not too much if properly controlled. Just a bit. So
> about once each 6 months I measure my AST/ALT. 
> As far as I know, I don't have any hepatitis, but because of the disease, my AST/ALT has usually been marginally higher than the
> reference level. Like 45 for ALT. This is expected.
> So I used Godzilla a lot. I didn't think it would have bad side effects, as I just felt better. I used like 3 hours w/ 500
> microamps (.5mA) on the ankles, and I also put it on the liver area (back and front), giving something ranging from .7 to 1.5 milliamps
> for like an hour each day. I know it's a lot, but I used it over a big area, so it didn't really burn my skin.
> Just after doing this crazy routine for a long period, I took an AST/ALT test. 
> I was pleased to know that my AST was 23 (ideal is less than 37) and my ALT was 39 (ideal is less than 41). So the numbers were
> excellent, which suggests I didn't have any bad side effects and the liver cells were not damaged by the electricity. Note that
> this was MY experience, and it does NOT mean it is valid for everyone. 


I've been using my Ziller for 4-5 months now, and have about zero
symptoms of HCV. I'm taking milk thistle, doing castor oil packs,
drinking Kombucha tea, and zilling, and that's about it, besides eating
a selective diet-(no fast or junk food) and haven't felt better and this
consistent for many moons. 
I suggest buying 2 and put one on each wrist for as many hours as
possible, at least one hour per day, and follow thru for weeks and
months. If you have a high viral load, it could take awhile (like mine),
but if you have faith, you'll get the results, I believe.
I have not checked my viral load, or stpt, and such, but I'm not
interested in those tests presently; I'm focused on a treatment that is
showing me results with the relief I'm getting. I'll do the test later
when I feel I've healed pretty well. 
Good luck to you all; remember: do it faithfully; that's the key. 

As I posted earlier I started Hep-B treatment 2 weeks ago, next lab
tests will be in next 2 weeks, what I will report here.
I use on myself a godzilla with four electrodes on my
wrists and ankles and one at the front of the liver.
My cycle is 2 times daily ( every 12 hours ) for 30 min.
I also use original Clark's zapper in the middle of a day for 7-20-7-
20-7 minute sessions.
As for supplements I take 4 oz. self made colloidal silver per day and
The herb Chanca Piedra (stone breaker: Phyllanthus niruri ) 3 x 250mg daily.
I will post about the progress in about two weeks when the lab tests
will be done.

03/18/05
So as I promised a month update coming:
Today I received my lab tests, Alt down from 194 to 135, Ast up from
33 to 52. This is after month treatment with godzilla. I,ve also done
HbsAg, don't know if it somehow represents quantity of the virus in
the blood, but number was the same as a month ago ( 400 and 418 S/N ).
I do not know if it is godzilla use that brought down Alt numbers or
taking some supplements or changing a bit my diet habits ( eliminating
50g of wine daily with the dinners ), but at least numbers are not
going up and this may be a good sign. I will continue godzilla zapping
for the next month and will post my results.
As for electrode placing I will add another one at the back of the
liver so it will looks like 2 on the wrists (+), 2 on the ankles (+),
one in the front of the liver (-) and one at the back of the liver (+
). The current I use is about .5 mA done 2 times daily ( every 12
hours ) for 20 minutes.

2 month update from my protocol, godzilla 2x20 min daily electrodes on
ankles, wrists and liver area, the same with Clark's zapper, plus
colloidal silver and H2O2.
Liver enzymes continuously dropping, in the first month from 190 to 130 and
now from 130 to 80 ( ALT ).
No overall symptoms of Hep B.
Energy level good.

Here it is my 3rd month update, Alt down from 82 to 77, not much but
there is I think better news, Hbs Antibodies started to appear, the level
is not high < 2.0 IU/L ( norm >10 )but 3 months ago it was 0.0. I think
it's a good sign for the future. Also I changed electrode placement from 2
on the liver and 4 on the wrists and ankles to just 2 on the wrists. As
for the liver I plan to get an electric (magnetic) pulser. I've changed electrodes placement because almost all current went thru liver pads burning my skin and on the wrists and ankles it was about .01 mA, I think far too low. For 3 days I'm in the ozone therapy clinic, doing auto-hemo-therapy (blood therapy) every day. Plan to stay for 13 days, will post the results next month.
--
Piotr



from group moderator:
A virus commonly referred to as "HCV" or "Hep-C" lives inside liver cells. It's really a family of viral strains, and is sometimes referred to as "non-A, non-B" when the exact typing is ambiguous. RNA strand count via blood test is indicative of activity of the virus, but fails to show the condition of the affected liver. A liver biopsy will reveal the damage to the liver. Electrifying blood at the wrists goes only partway and has little effect directly on these infected liver cells, since the current never enters them due to placement of the electrodes. Placing electrodes on front and back of liver will send current into liver, where it may serve to inactivate the virus. Electrifying blood via wrist electrodes is probably also a good idea, because anyone with infection may have a blood-carried component or opportunistic infection going on along with HCV, but this will not fully address the condition.

Even if the virus infects many areas of the body, the damage of consequence seems to be the liver itself. Viremia (viral infection) in the liver prompts immune response and a flood of white cells into the liver. This slowly clogs it, and it begins to fail. The disease has an active initial stage followed by a quiet stage of about 10 years. After that, it can return and can cause liver failure of variable severity. In some cases, about 10 percent, death ensues.

Lately, with the advent of better drug techniques, 50 percent of Hep-C cases can be treated successfully with pegalated Interferon and Ribavirin. Their count drops quickly to near-zero within a few weeks, then to zero in a month or two, and it stays there. The disease is gone, does not come back. These are the lucky ones. 

The others fall into two categories of failure: 1. reaction to drugs is too severe to continue. 2. Drugs ineffective.

Microelectricity research device of choice: auto-godzilla with TENS pads or standard godzilla cigarette-pack-sized electrodes held in place by a belt of some kind. These can be ganged around the liver, using 4 or 5 pairs, some in front and their matching electrode of opposite polarity in the back, or from side to side across the liver.

current to use: .5mA - 1.0mA time of usage 1 - 4 hours a day for a couple months.

cautions: With skin irritation lower the current and back off a day or so if it occurs. You can't afford to lose the skin's ability to withstand electric current. Let things heal or lower current down to lower levels until things heal up, then raise slowly if possible to the .2-.3mA range. This should be safe indefinitely.

Manual godzilla can also be used, but the auto-switching of auto-godzilla is nicer to deal with for long-term use. Some joint soreness after 10 minutes or more may be noticed if current is not reversed while using manual-godzilla. Auto-godzilla does thisautomatically, 
so it can be used while sleeping, etc, and avoids the inherent problems of current run too long in one direction.

Our files show almost a dozen cases in which some progress was made with Hep-C. Doctors, along with research-level electricity application, could be the best combinational approach to a disease like this which is partly cured via drugs and partly resistive to drugs.

The side effects of these drugs is not trivial. It can mean losing a job, or ability to function in life without help temporarily. All this without knowing ahead if it will work. That's a big hit, and it will require courage to try the drugs. 

Electricity is not in the same league, that we know of. It has not fully eradicated HCV in anyone reporting. But, nobody posted numbers while applying it to the liver directly, the only really likely approach. So, if you do this, please let us know how it goes, with tests if possible, but please do so no matter what you have to say. IT is very vital to everyone to know your procedures and results treating HCV.

Best of Luck. The Beck protocol is another resource to look into. 
However, there's nothing in there about electrification of the liver directly. Using a magnetic pulser of the Beck-type to generate a back EMF current is unlikely to work. There's not enough of a current for long enough a time period to do anything against virus. Larger magnetic pulsers are being worked on lately, and they may be better for the intended effect, but the whole effect of induced current is dependent on the duration of the field change and the intensity of the field. This is usually very brief, even if the field is very strong. Microbes, in my opinion, are likely to remain unaffected. This is not a popular belief, many think it is inactivating microbes. I respect all their opinions, while reserving belief as yet exactly what the effects are. If you can do it at low cost, mag-pulsing makes sense, and seems to have little if any harmful side effect. Colloidal Silver is likewise used with HCV, with some reported success as well. That is covered elsewhere especially in Beck's work. I am not going to allow a CS thread around this, as it's off topic, but for the sake of Beck's memory and in appreciation of others who have posted notes about it working, it's mentioned.